I'm working with a reaction of the form:

A + B -> C

Problem: IF the equilibrium constant is 4.2 and an equimolar mixture of A + B are reacted, verify that there will be an equilibrium yield of 67%.

Here is my attempt thus far.

4.2 = [C] / ([A]*[B])
x = starting molar quantity of A/B
y = final molar quantity of C
v = volume of reaction mixture

4.2 = y/v / ((x-y)^2/v^2)
4.2 = yv / (x^2-2xy+y^2)

And I'm stuck. Any help is greatly appreciated.

DrBob222 DrBob222 answered
15 years ago

I have struggled with this problem and I believe there is an inherent fallacy in the problem. For example, if the reaction is

A + B ==> C, then
K = (C)/(A)(B) = 4.2

BUT, by Le Chatelier's Principle, if we increase A and/or B, the reaction will be shifted to the right and more C will be formed.
Try it with 1 M A and 1 M B and you end up with 0.617 C and 1-0.617 = 0.383 A and B for a yield of 61.7%(100*0.617/1).

With 2 M A and 2 M B, we end up with 1.42 C and 2-1.42 = 0.58 A and B for a yield of 71% (100*1.42/2).

With 3 M A and 3 M B, we end up with 2.265 C and 3-2.265 = 0.734 for a yield of 73.4% (100*2.265/3).

So the percentage changes because the ratio changes even though I started with equimolar amounts of A and B.

Working backwards.
A + B ==> C
Start with 1 M A and 1 M B, you can't get 4.2 for K if 67% is used for the yield (if I understand what equilibrium yield is) but 4.2 is obtained if we use 61.7%. The same is true for the other amounts of A and B initially.

If you find that equilibrium yield is something different than (C)/(A)at equilibrium please let me know.

GK GK answered
15 years ago

Since the answer I got is a bit different from the one given, here is my complete take on this:

Assume 1 mole of A and 1 mole of B reacting (This is legitimate since the yield should be independent of the actual number of moles used as long as they are equal). Let's represent the moles of A and B reacting by "x". Then we reach the equilibrium amounts as follows:

A B C
1 1 0 Initial
-x -x +x Change
(1-x) (1-x) x Final (Equil.)

x / [(1-x)^2] = 4.2
x = 4.2(1-x)^2
x / (1 -2x + x^2) = 4.2
x = (4.2)(1 -2x + x^2)
x = 4.2 - 8.4x + 4.2x^2
0 = 4.2 - 9.4x + 4.2x^2
x = 0.62 and 1.62
Since x must be less than 1 mole, x = 0.62. We started with 1 mole A, 1 mole B. The 0.62 moles of either that reacted represents 62% of the initial amount of of 1 mole.

chemstudent chemstudent answered
15 years ago

Thanks so much. I thought I was missing something, but you are right. Either I'm misreading the problem or it can't be solved from the information provided. I'll turn that in. Thanks!

DrBob222 DrBob222 answered
15 years ago

The 62% you obtained is the same as my 61.7% for 1 M (except I'm not allowed that many significant figures and I obtained that value the same way) but if we use 2 or 3 initially, it isn't independent of concn. The 2 works out to be 72% and 3 works out to be 75%. Higher values gives still higher percentages. But isn't that correct? Larger values of reactants should give larger values of percent (and a shift to the right).

chemstudent chemstudent answered
15 years ago

The problem I have with this is, that if I change the initial 1 concentration to something else, like 2 for example, then x/2 solves to a different yield % (71%). This leads me to believe that there is no constant yield percent for the given problem.

GK GK answered
15 years ago

I think the problem was constructed with the false assumption that the yield is independent of concentration and I accepted it uncritically. Le Chatelier's Principle still rules. Glad you were so alert. I checked [A]=[B]=3M with my setup and got a 75% yield, farther to the right than 1M. Close enough to yours. Cheers.

DrBob222 DrBob222 answered
15 years ago

There isn't a constant yield and there shouldn't be. Notice I used 2 M in one of my calculations and obtained 71%. 3M gives 75% and higher values initially (4,5,6 etc) gives still higher percentages. That's why I said in my response that the problem was based on a fallacy. As GK has pointed out, Le Chatelier's Principle still rules and an increase in A or an increase in B forces the equilibrium to the right, producing more C and a higher percentage yield (with the caveat that I may not be using the same definition of equilibrium yield as the person who constructed the problem).

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